SB 649

[Lin Stadler]

Sen Ralph Hise is the primary sponsor for SB 649. This bill if passed would PERMIT STUDENTS WHO ATTEND A PUBLIC SCHOOL, PRIVATE SCHOOL, OR HOME SCHOOL WITHOUT AN INTERSCHOLASTIC ATHLETICS PROGRAM IN A GIVEN SPORT OR PARTICULAR EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ACTIVITY AT A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL.

This is not the first time this has been proposed. It did pass it's first reading today and has been referred to Committee On Rules and Operations of the Senate.

 

[davisdorm]

What is the difference between this proposal and what is already taking place in the Northwest 1-A Conference?
We have schools with specific boundaries - Mt. Airy, North Stokes, and East Surry. And we have schools that have no specific boundaries because Forsyth County (Atkins, Walkertown, and Winston Salem Prep) has an open enrollment period where students can go outside their district to another high school. And Bishop McGuinness is not restricted to a specific area either.
The real difference would be in academic eligibility. Would a home school student be required to meet the same set of standards academically as a public school student? And who would check on all of these folks? And I know the NCHSAA will not check on anyone breaking their rules. They still live in a dream world where all the rule breakers self report. And I don't think that a parent would suspend their child from a contest if they smoked a cig like Surry County does with their county wide discipline policy.
Is this not the same guy who wants to pass a Constitutional Amendment saying if a state does not like a federal law that state does not have to obey that law ????

 

[new_dawg]

This is in the news in Virginia too, and is being referred to as the "Tebow rule". This would be a nightmare for public school athletics, because there is no way to reliably check curriculum, grades, attendance, etc. for home schoolers, or from private schools to public. Very slippery slope. Just another example of how the extreme right wingers in NC are attempting to undermine public education.

As for davisdorm's comments...this is not the same thing as open enrollment or parochial schools. This will be anarchy for public school athletics statewide if it becomes law.

 

[btango]

I am 100% with new dawg on this one.

I do not understand why a student that does not want to attend a school would want to play sports at that school. Are they playing for "their" school or themselves.

I can see the future where the school is required to set a students schedule at the school in the morning for certain classes that he is strong n and takes at school before he goes home to make A's through his home school program for classes that he is weak in.

As a coach I do not really want a player that is not a student and part of the school.

 

[waggle28]

This has been done before with great results. It pertains to a student attending a school without a particular sport. That student could participate in that sport, only, at another school. This was done in Columbus county in the 80's, when students from Williams Township and Nakina were allowed to play football at Tabor City High School. One of those players got a scholarship to Wingate to play. This gives students an opportunity to play a sport that is not offered at his/her school. Nothing wrong with this at all. Lets hear the rebuttal.

 

[new_dawg]

Originally posted by waggle28:

This has been done before with great results. It pertains to a student attending a school without a particular sport. That student could participate in that sport, only, at another school. This was done in Columbus county in the 80's, when students from Williams Township and Nakina were allowed to play football at Tabor City High School. One of those players got a scholarship to Wingate to play. This gives students an opportunity to play a sport that is not offered at his/her school. Nothing wrong with this at all. Lets hear the rebuttal.

No rebuttal to the situation you are referring to...but that is public school to public school in the same school system. So the curriculum, attendance, grades, etc. requirements are the same and are reliably recorded by education professionals..

Where the problem lies is when a student who is homeschooled, or who attends a private school is allowed to play sports at the public school. How can accountability for attendance, grades, etc. be confirmed? Answer...with home schoolers, NO WAY. It would be whatever mom or dad says. With private schoolers, it depends. Some private schools may be as or more stringent than publics, but I can name some others that are lacking in qualified teachers, and some that are schools in name only.

 

[btango]

Originally posted by waggle28:

This has been done before with great results. It pertains to a student attending a school without a particular sport. That student could participate in that sport, only, at another school. This was done in Columbus county in the 80's, when students from Williams Township and Nakina were allowed to play football at Tabor City High School. One of those players got a scholarship to Wingate to play. This gives students an opportunity to play a sport that is not offered at his/her school. Nothing wrong with this at all. Lets hear the rebuttal.

No issue with a student at a public school that does not offer a sport going to another public school to play that sport. No issue at all. That is the school that student is assigned to. He did not opt out of the public school for a private school or home school.

A few decisions would need to be made on how to deal with ADM and how to determine which school the student would play the non offered sport at. Would the home district school be associated with a specific high school or would the non offered sport school be determined by primary residence address and the nearest school that offers the sport.

If a school takes students to play football from a school with 300 students that does not offer will the "sports school" add that ADM to their enrollment and possibly be placed in a higher classification the next alignment and would that be for only football or all sports?

Not as simple as giving the green light and sending the players over to the "sports school".

 

[3daughters]

Just stop Davis...same hogwash from you for years, everyone knows what has gone on in Surry County for years.